tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35003002011-07-14T19:37:33.768-05:00{ The Comp Blog }...a team blog about teaching, blogging, and teaching about blogging.. with blogging...
Initial blogging: 2002-04; revived February 2006.Cindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.comBlogger3321100tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1165249943331058202006-12-04T10:31:00.000-06:002006-12-04T10:32:23.350-06:00A thesison poetry blogs: http://lowres.uno.edu:80/classes/cyberlit/papers/ballardini/opening.htmlKevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1164466124192724912006-11-25T08:46:00.000-06:002006-11-25T08:53:57.606-06:00Craig Saper's article Blogademia should be useful and relevant to our study. He has interviewed a handful of academic bloggers, suggested the idea of "gossip knowledge," and envisions blogs as 21st century academic tools.This whole issue of Reconstruction is about blogging--will need to read more.Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1162905726470163452006-11-07T07:16:00.000-06:002006-11-07T07:22:06.486-06:00Thinking about the paper we are working on, and the value of the tetrad. Also how to represent it. The list of blogging characteristics at the start of Bonnie Nardie et al's paper is good--keep in touch with others, thinking through writing, express ideas, follow issues--but if we think about a tetrad as the electrate version of the list, it provides us with four lists occupying roughly the Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1162520475221671082006-11-02T20:20:00.000-06:002006-11-02T21:12:11.556-06:00Trying to catch up on some recent and not so recent blog scholarship. The Learning Blogosphere (2006): a video presentation by Alex H. The drill instructor and hippie approach contrasted. Sees blogging as a gateway to learning beyond the class; sees the blogosphere as a sphere of incidental learning, somewhere between authoritarian and laissez-faire approaches to education.Carolyn Miller and Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1158349698713837762006-09-15T14:46:00.000-05:002006-09-15T14:48:18.726-05:00This response to our article questions the value of identifying the print-based genres remediated by weblogging.Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1157603830904591342006-09-06T23:36:00.000-05:002006-09-06T23:38:24.250-05:00A blog post about a new blog article: http://oregonstate.edu/~farism/blog/?p=232Michael blogs about an article in pedagogy that successfully incorporated blogs because blogs were a focal point, not ancillary. Makes sense!Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1156448148828041732006-08-24T14:26:00.000-05:002006-08-24T14:35:48.843-05:00Pretty much our entire dept is going to NCTE this fall... crazy, eh?So, GPACW is right before then... hmm. And over Veteran's Day weekend. Ooooh.I'd love to go. Really. And if you two wanted to pick me up in good ol' Wahpeton, maybe it'd work? Man, I haven't looked at our stuff for so long. I got lost in the summer... probably got stuck in a box for a month when I was packing. Or packed my brain Sybilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10756611398347684249noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1155225641479765362006-08-10T10:51:00.000-05:002006-08-10T11:00:41.663-05:00Very interesting--blogs as career hazards.It does raise the question of how much blogs can/should help or hurt a career, and should they be counted toward tenure? A developed filter blog like yours, Kevin, I think should count for something, especially if others read it. But I bet it'll be forever before something like that gets credited.I don't know what the standard would be for "established" Cindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1154967800907821272006-08-07T11:22:00.000-05:002006-08-07T11:23:20.920-05:00Could this blog ruin our careers?Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1154458933935130152006-08-01T13:57:00.000-05:002006-08-01T14:02:13.980-05:00Kevin, I guess I'll say--if you and Sybil get something together for the conference, and if you can use me and/or want to define a place for me, I'll join in. I can't, however, take a really active role.Sorry to be so passive, but, as I said in an email recently, I'm in energy and poem conservation mode.CindyCindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1153493629513257552006-07-21T09:51:00.000-05:002006-07-21T09:53:49.526-05:00The Pew Internet and American Life project has just completed a phone survey of 600 bloggers. Definitely relevant to our study, which we aren't really working on; )Cindy and Sybil, are the two of you interested in working on our paper and presenting it at GPACW in November?Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1146539604934299232006-05-01T22:12:00.000-05:002006-05-01T22:13:42.746-05:00I guess we could lose ourselves in The WEblog Project.Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1145680783009459642006-04-21T23:38:00.000-05:002006-04-21T23:39:43.023-05:00An NPR story that is right up our alley: does blogging really help the serious writer?Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1145469089172078502006-04-19T12:45:00.000-05:002006-04-19T12:51:29.233-05:00"Is lack of response, for example, a bad thing?" states Kristine Blair who cited us... good question.Sybilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10756611398347684249noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1142372629274976332006-03-14T15:40:00.000-06:002006-03-14T15:43:49.286-06:00I saw this group present at CW 2005 in Stanford, and now they have remediated their oral presentation as web text, with at least one audio file. I have linked to the page where we are cited (shameless, I realize). But hey, we are just providing further evidence to support our argument: blogs can be a motivator, and when your article on blogging gets cited, you are motivated to keep blogging andKevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1142018988936977722006-03-10T13:28:00.000-06:002006-03-10T13:29:48.950-06:00Copied from my bloglines site (be aware of that as I talk about who I blog with, and when).URL: It Takes Time…and a New Element to Teaching & LearningI'd really like to figure out how to quickly and easily blog items here, on bloglines, and on my other appropriate, thematica blogs (by Blog blog, my Visual Culture and Language Blog, my Teaching Blog). Or, maybe I just need to consolidate, and getKevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1141842851484091632006-03-08T12:30:00.000-06:002006-03-08T12:34:11.496-06:00WOW. Not only did Ashley Holmes cite us in her paper, but she used a lot of my survey answers. Cool beans... I am so glad I was able to help.Yes, Kevin, there is a lot out there about blogging now, but... I still feel like we have something very special/specific to say... the three of us, as a club, have so many separate ideas for one... and we've been using 'em longer than most who are just Sybilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10756611398347684249noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1141791986286791222006-03-07T22:25:00.000-06:002006-03-07T22:26:26.300-06:00A new piece about blogging to check out.Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1141704220969721612006-03-06T21:46:00.000-06:002006-03-06T22:03:41.036-06:00An MA thesis on blogging--we get cited. http://www.lib.ncsu.edu/theses/available/etd-03222005-205901/unrestricted/etd.pdfDraws on some interesting survey responses from teachers who use blogs.An empirical study of blogging and learning. http://csdl2.computer.org/comp/proceedings/hicss/2005/2268/01/22680007b.pdfugg, there has been a lot written about blogs in the last few years.Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1140794834711240722006-02-24T09:15:00.000-06:002006-02-24T09:27:14.880-06:00According to McLuhanist Jeff Rice, blogging should/could enhance experimentation and playfulness within academic discourses, but instead it has enhanced seriousness, hand-wringing, and, and anxiety.Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1140639978065788342006-02-22T14:25:00.000-06:002006-02-22T14:26:18.076-06:00p.s. I told Wade King (my dept chair "down here") about this site. So be good and don't swear... ;-)Sybilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10756611398347684249noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1140632160014456552006-02-22T11:55:00.000-06:002006-02-22T12:19:12.326-06:00Hi all.Teeny tiny update on my end: I'm teaching at NDSCS now (45 miles south of NDSU in Wahpeton, ND) full-time, and I haven't used blogs during my first year here... I think I wanted to ease into the new atmosphere with as little problems as possible (I didn't know if students here used technology a lot or if they even had a lot of computer labs, etc) and now I feel comfortable enough to use Sybilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10756611398347684249noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1139778657975433832006-02-12T15:10:00.000-06:002006-02-12T15:10:57.976-06:00I thought I had activated the comments; might need to test them with a new post.Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1139777444083023622006-02-12T14:22:00.000-06:002006-02-12T14:50:44.313-06:00Cindy emailed me last night to say that she found a course that had assigned our essay, "Remediation, Genre, and Motivation," and that got us emailing and talking about finishing a second article we were close to being done with, but had let slip through the cracks. One of the first things we will have to do is write about the role of weblogging in our lives the past 3 years. I was labeled the Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-107481178674909882004-01-22T16:49:00.000-06:002004-01-22T16:51:14.560-06:00Poor little alone blog.
Sheesh. It's been awhile.
This semester looks promising. I finally have an 8am class that is talkative. I don't know who I prayed to correctly for that, but I am NOT complaining.
Other than a promising teaching semester, my academic stuff.. ooofta. I am learning, slowly, to more and more precise. It's going to be tough, but I think I will get through. I keep Sybilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10756611398347684249noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1068072238097627792003-11-05T16:43:00.000-06:002003-11-05T16:43:56.050-06:00Hey all.
My blogging has turned into "bitch sessions"... it's not good. I think I am on too many weblogs. I still love to do it, but since I have many to comment on (class blogs in the classes I am taking and teaching, the BisonBlog, this blog, my personal blog and my teaching blog) they are all starting to lack. I have to admit that I miss my personal one the most. I don't think that that isSybilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10756611398347684249noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1067175530408143082003-10-26T07:30:00.000-06:002003-10-26T07:38:49.716-06:00I'm 37.5 % on the "does your weblog own you" survey, and I stretched a couple of answers. Lately, I have disowned, or been disowned by my weblog: it has simply become too low of a priority, too low of return on investment. But I miss it.
I wanted to post an event from this week's class. I am asking my students to journal for the next 2.5 weeks, and I gave them some options, although as a Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1065990901007809102003-10-12T15:35:00.000-05:002003-10-12T15:35:00.816-05:00Well, I sent out an email to some of my former students, and I got more responses that way then through the TAs asking their students.. I need to put up my flyers soon. Plus, I had someone email me after she read my article in the Spectrum.
Maybe this weblogging thing isn't "cool" enough. Is it a "geek" kid thing to like?
Is it too academic maybe? People would rather blog alone or in their Sybilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10756611398347684249noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1064513417218409992003-09-25T13:10:00.000-05:002003-09-25T13:10:17.183-05:00How much does your weblog OWN you? I scored a 37.5%.Sybilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10756611398347684249noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1063140849113281312003-09-09T15:54:00.000-05:002003-09-09T15:55:42.096-05:00Congrats on IRB approval for your thesis, Sybil. Should be a blast writing the thing--or at least fairly painless!
My two 120s are also off and blogging, with a few glitches here and there.
Hope your semester's off to a good start, you guys.
Cindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1063050954626374682003-09-08T14:55:00.000-05:002003-09-08T14:55:54.660-05:00What we are doing tomorrow in class to start them off into the weblogging frontier. I think I explained it well last Thursday. I explained it more from a student perspective: how it worked for me.. how it isn't homework (or more work) but a tool that I love.. how I want them to TRY it and that I know they all won't love it like I do... etc. I got a lot of nods. Good or bad, I'll find out Sybilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10756611398347684249noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1062684182783448272003-09-04T09:03:00.000-05:002003-09-07T22:14:32.656-05:00Sybil: be sure to check out THIS SITE (if you haven't seen it already). Good stuff on questions about authenticity and the "real self" in weblogs; approaching personal info in blogs obliquely vs. directly; etc.
Sybil and Kevin: sorry I've been neglecting this blog. Man, things are feeling overwhelming to me. I can't keep track of keeping track. Feeling crushed by even things I love.
I Cindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-106240249992306442003-09-01T02:48:00.000-05:002003-09-01T02:48:19.833-05:00Hold up.
One of my students on Thursday told me (as we were waiting for our warm Nelson Bldg room) that she HAD HEARD of weblogs before... that most of Fargo South students fell into the popularity of them a year or so back.. No teachers are using them there, but many students that went there have them because that's the way they all communicated, etc. So, I may have a few in my classrooms... Sybilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10756611398347684249noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1062188801406935462003-08-29T15:26:00.000-05:002003-08-29T15:26:41.453-05:00Hey, are we going to use this blog to keep some semester notes? Sybil told me that none of her students had heard of blogs, and none of my students have heard of blogs. have you asked yours, Cindy?
I did have one student ask "what is a blog?" but no interest beyond that.
The music theme seems to have struck a positive cord with my students. All 23 returned. Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1060643766616581542003-08-11T18:16:00.000-05:002003-08-11T18:16:06.653-05:00P.S. I am sending a revision of my tetrad via e-mail soon.Sybilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10756611398347684249noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1060643705502440892003-08-11T18:15:00.000-05:002003-08-11T18:15:05.533-05:00For our submission:
Personal Weblogging (Sybil)
I've always blogged, I just didn't know it. Before I started blogging, I had been journaling in various eccentric-looking paper journals since grade school. The reason I say I had been blogging even then is because they had a time-stamp. Always.
I actually started weblogging in the online sense in the spring of 2002 when I was taking Kevin's Sybilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10756611398347684249noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1059068717314290442003-07-24T12:45:00.000-05:002003-07-24T12:55:37.810-05:00Sorry I've been away a bit, you guys.
I finally put together an actual formal homepage for myself.
Also found a weblog on adjunct issues. Just thought I'd mention it here because, well, labor issues affect everything...
There's something kind of funny about webloggers having an audience in mind of 5 to 500. Even as I write this, I feel about 327 people peeking over my shoulder...
I'm Cindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1058899300883207852003-07-22T13:41:00.000-05:002003-07-22T13:41:40.850-05:00Kevin. WHOA. You are turning into me with dreams about blogging.. or waking up sweating over blogging. Now you know what I went through on a smaller scale two springs ago. Isn't it FUN?
BUT you are on the right track. I concur completely with the numbered list. I have kind of thought that having more aspects to go by (four vs. two) is better which is why I'd like to cover the pedagogical Sybilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10756611398347684249noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1058818059012673392003-07-21T15:07:00.000-05:002003-07-21T15:07:39.070-05:00I just read a little piece on blogging: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/3078541.stm
The most relevant point: blogging is for people who want to communicate with 5-500 people. Email is 1:1, and ads/TV are for millions. And blogs create a visible, public, record in a way that email does not.
Obviously we can quibble about email as 1:1, but generally, this piece seems on track. Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1058817374193133302003-07-21T14:56:00.000-05:002003-07-21T14:56:14.060-05:00I woke up in the middle of the night and asked myself: why are we using a tetradic analysis of weblogging, and why are we using McLuhan, rather than Bolter and Grusin's remediation? Manovich's language of new media? Anybody else's theory. In other words, I woke up with a "so what?" bolt.
So, what do we tell our many readers? The tetrad is cooler? The tetrad is more dynamic? is anybody Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1058639744351649782003-07-19T13:35:00.000-05:002003-07-19T13:35:44.293-05:00Kevin, I did a few quick searches for numbers of people with homepages, but not having much luck.
Good U of M piece.
I am totally digging the Eric McLuhan book.
Cindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1058550433450713552003-07-18T12:47:00.000-05:002003-07-18T12:47:13.490-05:00Sybil (and Cindy), you should definitely check out the U of M whitepaper on Blogging (or did one of you originally send it to me?).
Considering the TechTransfer stipend, and considering your desire to be a professional blogger, Sybil, I think you should think about ways to do research, and write a paper, that would be the first step towards being an education technology consultant, with a Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1058468699078115022003-07-17T14:04:00.000-05:002003-07-17T14:04:59.086-05:00The Neilsen family carries over its TV tendency: how many people "watch" the web?
having a hard time finding how many people are estimated to have home pages. Help....Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1058467625503429702003-07-17T13:47:00.000-05:002003-07-17T13:47:05.440-05:00Useful site called "How Much Information?" . Blogging not accounted for at the time of the study, but the numbers and analysis provided will help us put blogging in context. I 've been re-reading older material about blogging, and noticing the rhetoric of "explosion" and "massive trend," but if there are only 600,000 bloggers and over 600 million web users, it has only been the rapid growth Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1058319363447963822003-07-15T20:36:00.000-05:002003-07-15T20:36:03.496-05:00I KNEW you were going to use the word "formal" on me.. Like a blog in a tuxedo... see, if my blog were human (another good opening line for a thesis??) she would be in jeans that are fraying and a hippie/linen top. I don't do nylons, but I will try to formalize my shtuff.. I am only blogging like I am right now to get things OUT OF ME. Be gone you blogging demons! :-)
P.S. I DID have an extra Sybilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10756611398347684249noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1058218368677431622003-07-14T16:32:00.000-05:002003-07-14T16:32:48.620-05:00Team, I have been working on the tetrad essay most of the day, and will try to pull elements together by this evening to send out. If either of you have suggestions or inclusions, and you read this before this (Monday) evening, send material my way. Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1058205996778083142003-07-14T13:06:00.000-05:002003-07-25T19:08:24.616-05:00Kevin,
Here are fixed links to those tetrads I've been playing with:
First set
Second set
Also: here's my creative blog. (Rough, nuts, not sure what I'm doing with it exactly, yet...)
And also: a tetradic poem.
Cindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1058201575253827472003-07-14T11:52:00.000-05:002003-07-14T11:52:55.160-05:00One link leads to another.
Cindy's weblog census lead me to the organization that is supporting the research, The National Institute for Technology and Liberal Education. I like their work--too bad we aren't at a Liberal Arts school.
Their weblog led me to the latest Pew Report about Gaming and College Students. While I have been reading McLuhan, I have been thinking about the need to look Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1058200989362231952003-07-14T11:43:00.000-05:002003-07-14T11:43:09.303-05:00Sybil,
i responded to your ideas about MA paper on your blog--let me know if they didn't post. In short, I might ask you to be a bit more formal, a bit more finished, than you want to be, but overall, I like the idea for a blog structure. Paul Levinson says that McLuhan's Gutenberg Galaxy is like a proto-website, but it is really a proto weblog.
if you've got a little cash (like an extra Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1058040608412292732003-07-12T15:10:00.000-05:002003-07-12T15:10:08.470-05:00600,000 blogs for the downloading
"Weblog Census is a Technorati/Blogdex/Daypop-style project that has indexed over 600,000 blogs from around the world, archiving all the posts its ever discovered. You can download all this data from the project site, and invent your own data-mining alogrithms to discover the topology of Blogistan."
Cindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1058040417710982542003-07-12T15:06:00.000-05:002003-07-12T15:06:57.800-05:00Popdex: Website popularity index; the most popular links of all time.
Interesting to see the place of blog sites here.
Cindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1057888462819197142003-07-10T20:54:00.000-05:002003-07-10T20:54:22.843-05:00Oops, I guess Mon the 21 wouldn't be so great (because of the dept. reading group). How about that Wed. instead, my place, noon?
Cindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1057858859412076532003-07-10T12:40:00.000-05:002003-07-10T12:40:59.470-05:00Hey guys. A meeting to talk tetradically week after next would be good for me. Say Monday the 21st? My place? Noon?
Sybil, your last blog entry is a crack-up and I love it. (The "hermit at the library"...lol.) Also I think a thesis actually in blog form would be FABULOUS. Of course, you might have to contend with the powers-that-be and their entrenched habits, but I hope you freaking go Cindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1057789933635022562003-07-09T17:32:00.000-05:002003-07-09T18:39:09.930-05:00Kevin (Cindy, you can look too since I value your opinion VERY much) ---> Here's my most recent brain chunk about my blog thesis. I think I am getting somewhere.
And An intriguing entry from a blogger named slug that could be used in class to figure out the questions WHO ARE WE? or WHO AM I?... etc.Sybilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10756611398347684249noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1057776859224865342003-07-09T13:54:00.000-05:002003-07-09T17:18:06.310-05:00My last day with Corporateland will be tomorrow. I'll work after the Tech Orientation until 6 and be done. Done done done. THEN I will devote my time to tetrads, looking at a computer screen with a smiling face, and reading/commenting more on my assigned essay. I have a busy week next week because my fabulous friend Fran will be in town staying with me... she's from WA state.
Should we Sybilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10756611398347684249noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1057766623433807512003-07-09T11:03:00.000-05:002003-07-09T11:03:43.390-05:00Cindy, the revised tetrads are stunning! More later. Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1057724110965750102003-07-08T23:15:00.000-05:002003-07-08T23:15:11.026-05:00I like the smaller fonts, Sybil. Thanks :-D
Cindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1057699872056192162003-07-08T16:31:00.000-05:002003-07-08T16:31:12.006-05:00Kevin, I played with our template too. Did you know that I am using this very same template for this coming fall's class blog? So I just copied over some of the things I changed. Made the font a little smaller... fit more on the page. Also- I like Georgia as a font much more.Sybilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10756611398347684249noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1057695541910334852003-07-08T15:19:00.000-05:002003-07-08T15:19:01.950-05:00Whoa. I have been a lazy 4th of July blogger. Wasn't even within 10 feet of a computer all weekend. So sorry. Will blog to my heart's content tonight. Have-to catch up with what you've both been writin'! Sheesh... Hadn't written in my personal one for a week. Today's entry is scattered and frayed.
Hope you both had fun at my place on Thursday. Doyle, our black scare-D-cat, made his Sybilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10756611398347684249noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1057682121334758882003-07-08T11:35:00.000-05:002003-07-10T12:47:39.703-05:00Boy, that Kitzmann piece is really interesting. I completely agree with you, Kevin, that (her?) thing-in-itself thinking is a little troublesome, and I wonder if she simplifies or distorts ideas of remediation: "[R]emediation remains more or less a theory of adaptation, because it still implies that existing cultural practices or traditions have the upper hand, still guiding or shaping the Cindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1057631887139098402003-07-07T21:38:00.000-05:002003-07-07T21:50:57.823-05:00Thanks Kevin. You had told me that before, and it's in my notes from the other day. Guess I should read my notes.
?:-(|)
Cindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-105759814341107492003-07-07T12:15:00.000-05:002003-07-07T12:15:43.453-05:00Cindy,
The issue of Biography can be found at project muse. Check my teaching blog for a link, i think.
Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1057597456003332322003-07-07T12:04:00.000-05:002003-07-14T09:01:28.720-05:00Here; I clarified and snazzed up the last tetrad graphic one more time.
Kevin: I assume that issue of Biography is only in hard copy, right?
Cindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1057558241226777702003-07-07T01:10:00.000-05:002003-07-07T01:17:38.413-05:00Oh brother, I guess I got my quadrant order mixed up or something. The order in that graphic, going clockwise from upper left, is supposed to be Enhance, Retrieve, Obsolesce, Reverse. So: "pleasure and liscence" should be understood as retrieved, the "solitary ego" as reversed, etc.
More tomorrow. I'm zonked.
How's Michigan?
P.S. Oh--I had already read some of your blogging on True Cindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1057546434668473742003-07-06T21:53:00.000-05:002003-07-06T21:53:54.583-05:00Cindy, the Gibson blog is really good, and comes at a good time for me. I want to write an essay about Neuromancer and David Byrne's True Stories. See my teaching blog for details.
Your latest tetrad is sweet and stunning. Your design instincts are phenomenonal. Quit wasting your time teaching comp! Pull together, if you haven't already, your book of technopoetry, and go get a real job.Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1057516241692984292003-07-06T13:30:00.000-05:002003-07-07T11:14:21.030-05:00Here's another stab at tetrads.
This one's real graphical, but is "straighter" than my last ones. I.e, it's not an "anti-tetrad" :)
Also: this one's on writing weblogs. One on reading weblogs is on the way.
Cindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1057430779279062222003-07-05T13:46:00.000-05:002003-07-06T13:29:03.173-05:00William Gibson's blog.
Just interesting.
Cindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1057333017412167582003-07-04T10:36:00.000-05:002003-07-04T10:36:57.370-05:00P.S. Does the Flash stuff in my quadrants work on your Macs? Should be images, sound, animation.
Cindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1057331929958794362003-07-04T10:18:00.000-05:002003-07-05T01:25:52.546-05:00Kevin, I completely like the refreshing new template. It was getting hard, in the last one, to visually distinguish between entries sometimes. This is much better.
Also, I like your questions about my tetrads :) You raise some challenging questions, and they're the kind of thing I like to think about, so I'll try to answer them or at least give you guys some kind of response.
"Everything I’Cindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1057328273902174452003-07-04T09:17:00.000-05:002003-07-04T09:17:53.923-05:00see if this works...Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1057328186383473482003-07-04T09:16:00.000-05:002003-07-04T09:16:26.410-05:00still monkeying with the archives...Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1057327773660052392003-07-04T09:09:00.000-05:002003-07-04T09:09:33.706-05:00Am I caught up yet? I added a comments link, I think. Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1057327264932129362003-07-04T09:01:00.000-05:002003-07-04T09:01:04.830-05:00Okay, the template is less funky but more functional (what a surprise, coming from me). I've added our teaching blogs. Feel free to add more links!
Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1057326801323422222003-07-04T08:53:00.000-05:002003-07-04T08:53:21.210-05:00I am going to try to change the template--I messed up a few things with the old one, and can't seem to get it back to "normal." Sorry for acting unilaterally. I've been in the States too long. Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1057326249514905232003-07-04T08:44:00.000-05:002003-07-04T08:44:09.423-05:00Cindy, your creative tetrad, especially the reading tetrad, pushes the anti-tetrad even further away from the rhetorical-poetical into, would you say, the lyrical and mystical? lyrical and metaphorical? lyrical and mythical? I don't know what to do with you -- I am not many, I can not contain multitudes!
Your tetrad about personal weblogging is less personal than you tetrad about creative Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1057325187329633032003-07-04T08:26:00.000-05:002003-07-04T08:26:27.370-05:00Thoughts on Cindy's tetrads:
I love your reworking of the icon with the words crossing the "borders". I think the McLuhans would love it too.
Academic: cool anti-tetrad for writing--writing is so pervasive, writing is so us, that weblogging can only enhance writing, can only become one more kind of writing, and doing that writing will not reverse into anything else, obsolesce anything else. Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1057324112351183862003-07-04T08:08:00.000-05:002003-07-04T08:08:32.456-05:00Whoa, I am slightly overwhelmed, but in a good way. So overwhelmed I have nothing intelligent to write, except to remind us that this weblog has been linked to from the online essay "The Year of the Blog," so let's tidy the place up, okay? I'm going to go read Cindy's tetrads, then i will come back. Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1057087140472918732003-07-01T14:19:00.000-05:002003-07-02T09:14:45.753-05:00Kevin went to Winnepeg for the weekend, Sybil. I'm not sure if he's back yet.
Glad you've got some time off work.
Cindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1057086303216635972003-07-01T14:05:00.000-05:002003-07-01T14:05:03.220-05:00Hey kids!
Where's Kevin at?
Maybe I will just e-mail you two about meeting on Thursday. I still haven't READ the stuff you sent us, Kevin. I need to go somewhere where I can print off stuff. My brother's computer crashed on him (those darn non-Macs! I gave him some crap over that...) so I have no printer at home. Luckily for ME; however, is that I have tomorrow off from work (we don't comeSybilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10756611398347684249noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1057033407783345522003-06-30T23:23:00.000-05:002003-07-01T13:01:36.170-05:00Ta da. Back.
A meetings at Sybil's sounds fine to me. Then next time can be at my place.
Let me know address and time.
Cindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1057023534986343442003-06-30T20:38:00.000-05:002003-07-01T13:00:40.600-05:00Sybil, I dig your questions about identity & blogging. I'm completely intriqued by the whole notion of "filtering," not just in the academic sense (weblog as research tool), and not just in the managing-the-sprawl-of-the-Internet sense. But in the sense of what we disclose about ourselves to ourselves, what we reveal/don't reveal both to completely unknown and remote audiences as well as to Cindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1057014075582506562003-06-30T18:01:00.000-05:002003-06-30T18:01:15.426-05:00Something I wrote up for my students to think about.. [p.s.: want to meet this week on Thursday afternoon... I don't think I work on that day, PLUS you two could come and see MY house??]
Questions to ask yourself about blogging:
Am I being truly ME through my writing/ my blogging? Am I putting on a different persona? Do I write a certain way to attract readers (be funny versus the reality that Sybilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10756611398347684249noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1056998976078538222003-06-30T13:49:00.000-05:002003-06-30T13:49:35.976-05:00What would really really be interesting to me is to have all my friends.. boyfriend especially.. keeping a weblog. THEN I could see from their perspectives. THEN maybe I could understand them.. him.. better. Ugh.
I was talking with the boyfriend long ago, and he brought up the movie idea of having a couple.. just one of them or both keep journals (paper ones) and when one of them dies, the Sybilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10756611398347684249noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1056993071842939142003-06-30T12:11:00.000-05:002003-06-30T12:11:11.896-05:00Finally started my own (nonteaching) weblog.
Cindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1056680814948990892003-06-26T21:26:00.000-05:002003-06-30T12:17:59.460-05:00I've been playing with tetrads. (They don't look right in Netscape; use IE. I'm not sure how they look on Macs, either.)
#1 (Academic)
#2 (Personal)
#3 (Creative) I think I like this one the best. May do Flash etc. with this one too--are we planning to submit any of this stuff to an online, New Media-friendly journal?
Tretrad as "poetic device or structure." Or tetrad as concrete poemCindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1056663972162565822003-06-26T16:46:00.000-05:002003-06-26T16:46:12.213-05:00So, you must be an Aquarius too then? We are water-bearing, independent women. That makes sense. Cool beans.
I have yet to read Kevin's new stuff (ssshhh.. don't tell him), but I'll get there before next week. I think I might use those good old tetrads in my thesis paper.. brainstormed with Tamara and the girls at Betsy's last night about thesis ideas. I have way too many roaming in my Sybilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10756611398347684249noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1056521749877424982003-06-25T01:15:00.000-05:002003-06-25T17:27:25.420-05:00P.S. Sybil, our birthdays are two days apart.
Cindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1056509374425663252003-06-24T21:49:00.000-05:002003-06-24T21:49:34.470-05:00Sybil, I've been looking at your "Teacher 47" blog. It's interesting! I'm gonna start reading your personal one more too; I'm not sure you're as "exhibitionist" as you always say you are. Have you by chance had any classes in autobiography? There's a ton of interesting stuff going on in it, and I can see your interests in blogging, multi-vocality, life-telling, self-exposure, etc. all Cindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1056493377289040912003-06-24T17:22:00.000-05:002003-06-24T17:24:33.390-05:00I'm being a slacker at work. It amazes me how different tasks on a computer lead to different levels of ambition for me. If I was blogging or reading blogs or just basicially searching online right now.. I would and could do it ALL DARN day. But this editing and formatting b.s. .. ah! ew! My brain is frying more from this than my occasional beers at the Turf. I am serious. I really do needSybilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10756611398347684249noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1056467517609097112003-06-24T10:11:00.000-05:002003-06-24T10:11:57.636-05:00Kevin: re: from your teaching blog: "I am trying to think my way out of the box of literary analysis and cultural studies, and into the box (or tetrad), or circle, of poetic/rhetorical invention (Ulmer) or simply probes (McLuhan). "
Can you point me to the Ulmer and McLuhan sources you reference above? Probably Heuretics and _______?
Cindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1056466090636383322003-06-24T09:48:00.000-05:002003-06-24T09:51:57.670-05:00Sybil, yeah--I think the "personality type" or "writer type" issue is a really interesting one, and it's come to my mind from time to time since the three of us started this blog research. I just find it interesting, for example, to notice who in my classes this last spring leaped into blogging with very little encouragement from me, and who immediately just wanted to gag at the very idea of Cindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1056395406368308892003-06-23T14:10:00.000-05:002003-06-23T14:13:18.833-05:00Cindy, you and I will slowly out-blog (or equalize the blogging with) Kevin here.
I totally agree with you on the street preaching thing. I get more turned off by those people. Their approach is all wrong.
AND Yea, I think we do have a third point... Our "writing space" helps students in various ways become better writers (or at least MORE aware? MORE attuned?) through various genres all Sybilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10756611398347684249noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1056164483285157692003-06-20T22:01:00.000-05:002003-06-21T03:37:55.613-05:00Sybil: I know what you mean. As if ANYONE would listen to a street preacher and stop doing ANYTHING. I wonder sometimes why those guys don't consider the possibility that they are turning OFF at LEAST as many people as they are converting. I mean, does anyone actually ever respond in a positive way to them (anyone other than those who already think exactly the same way, that is--like other Cindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1056143196996041232003-06-20T16:06:00.000-05:002003-06-20T16:06:37.086-05:00My thoughts EXACTLY. I just thought it was funny. As if people would listen to a street preacher and think "Oh my.. I must stop blogging IMMEDIATELY! How horrible of me to write my thoughts down!"Sybilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10756611398347684249noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1056137389319769942003-06-20T14:29:00.000-05:002003-06-20T14:29:49.380-05:00Well of course blogs are evil--why else would the three of us be interested? harCindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1056061756778055602003-06-19T17:29:00.000-05:002003-06-19T17:32:26.546-05:00maybe we should rethink blogging... because apparently blogs are evil:::
"I ran into this corner street preacher and turned my camera on him. He started preaching louder into the camera about how God is going to pull the plug on America in 2005 if we don't return to the bible, something about 66 years from the start of WWII. I let him go on for a looooong time about this, then when he started Sybilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10756611398347684249noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1056051936568704382003-06-19T14:45:00.000-05:002003-06-19T14:47:58.860-05:00Oh that icon. Well, you Mac users don't mind having to hand-code links, right? I mean, being so intuitive and all... ;)Cindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1056048521292619012003-06-19T13:48:00.000-05:002003-06-19T13:48:41.200-05:00Cindy, you must have forgotten that us poor mac users don't get the handy little globe + chain icon so that we can easily make links in blogger. Sybil and I always have to hand code our links. Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1056048116586827522003-06-19T13:41:00.000-05:002003-06-19T13:41:56.546-05:00Team, I am trying out another blog host: Radio Weblog . You will see my initial responses to the tool. Could be useful for those of us with 24/7 internet access, but not a tool for students who are mobile or without computers. Kevin Brookshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09587202724486827943noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500300.post-1056040370599780122003-06-19T11:32:00.000-05:002003-06-20T14:30:51.190-05:00My house is my head.
As soon as I have things a bit more organized and cleaned out, I'll be able to think clearly. Gonna finish up by early this afternoon, I hope.
Skimmed the paper last night, Kevin. It's looking great. I have a few minor thoughts and suggestions--most major one is just that the conclusion (final paragraphs) might be developed somewhat more. I'll type in Word comments Cindyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05999967307152165870noreply@blogger.com0